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Indiana Jones is up there imo
If only they'd stopped at 3...
They did stop at 3, though. That's what I tell myself.
You’re missing out if you don’t accepted The Young Indiana Jones as canon.
I wish Disney Plus would put Young Indy Chronicles on.
Maybe when the new movie comes out? We live in hope.
As Mel Brooks put it: hope for the best, expect the worst.
As Mel Gibson puts it: "Ah my nipples, they hurt! They hurt when I twist them!"
Still holding on to my VHS set.
But will they post the original TV episodes or the Lucas re-edited home video versions?
Should make a new series with a teen or early twenties Indy and have Harrison Ford as the old man telling the stories or have various actors from the movie series tell stories about the antics of Indy - Karen Allen, Kate Capshaw, John Rhys-Davies, and Ke Huy Quan could all reprise their roles and tell new stories of young Indy.
You just described the Young Indian Jones TV series that was on the air from 1992 to 1993.
No, I didn't. I'm very familiar with that show, I enjoyed it, but it was flawed as it was split between two timelines and focused on how Indy met all these famous figures in history and "helped" them. Harrison Ford only appeared in one episode of the show, instead they had George Hall playing "Old Indy", the other actors never appeared in the show as their characters to tell stories about Indy (which is what I am suggesting they do). Also I was suggesting that they focus on one time period with Indy 18 or in his early 20's.
Thank you for mentioning George Hall. He was completely edited out of the home release of the series but still deserves credit as "present day" Indy.
Probably a few legal hurdles to jump before that can happen. The series is owned by Lucasfilm, but Paramount did the production and distribution.
Yes! With the original broadcast Old Indie bookends!
I don't think they have the distribution rights. Young Indy was distributed by Paramount Television. Paramount still owns distribution rights for the first four films so ig it's the same for the TV shows as well.
They're freely available on the high seas.
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I remember the same. George Lucas wanted the show to be educational, so… yeah. But there are some episodes that are much better than others.
The trenches. Freaked me out.
Happy Cake Day!
Its on youtube I think.
Happy pie day
The Young Indiana Jones was a TV series rather than a film, but agree that it is an amazing series. The only caveat is that the DVD release I recall cut out the "old" Indy scenes. Not sure why.
That’s odd. I rented the DVDs from my local library and they had the old Indy scenes. I wonder why some versions would cut them out.
I remembered watching the first disc off Netflix back in the day and noticed it. Back in the day when Netflix still had reviews many were annoyed at that as well. Maybe they did a different release that added them back, but multiple reviews on Amazon for the DVD mentioned the same thing that they edited out old Indy.
The old Indy is cut out because Lucas wanted him out. Imagine that, Lucas wanted to change something after it was released.
I have them on vhs but still haven't watched them. Maybe it's time to dust off that old video player!
The Young Indiana Jones as canon
The Young Indiana Jones as canon
It's clear you like these, but are the considered good in general? I am a huge Indy fan but these never appealed to me.
They would have seemed a lot better if we hadn't seen the much better young Indy in the form of River Phoenix.
Overall I really enjoy the show, but not every episode is a banger.
Huge Indy fan here, but I always found Young Indy quite slow and boring. I never had the stamina to make it to the teen years, which I could imagine were probably better. Treasure of the Peacock’s Eye came bundled with the movie trilogy on VHS. I only watched it once as a kid, whereas the film trilogy got a constant rotation.
Indy also met some famous historically significant person like every episode, which I thought came across a bit elitist/privileged and took away from his scrappy nature as an adult a bit.
To me, the best non-film Indy media that was ever released was the video game Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Fans called that the unofficial 4th movie up until a 4th movie actually came out.
I don't understand why they don't retire Harrison Ford and have Sean Patrick Flannery take over. We could still have several more Indy movies!
I love Sean Patrick Flannery. He is very underrated.
If The Hitchhikers Trilogy can have 5.5 books, why can't the Indiana Jones films?
We called the dog Indiana
Sean Patrick Flannery has more screen time as Indiana Jones than any other actor.
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It might be canon, but it's not part of the trilogy.
That's new to me. All of this?
Lol. Several of those are video games.
This is it
Such a good show
Well, The Hobbit doesn't make LOTR not-a-trilogy.
This is what I tell myself about Pirates of the Carribean. That's how I get by.
We do what we must so we can sleep at night.
It was the last crusade after all.
They stopped at 3. They stopped at 3. They definitely stopped at 3. Best trilogy ever!
Yeah, Raiders and Crusade, but it's weird that they waited so long to Skull for #3.
Someone on the internet not blinded by nostalgia goggles.
And here's the REAL kicker - I'm old enough to have seen the originals in theaters as a kid.
I love all the movies, but I don't know how anyone in thier right mind can say Temple is better than Crystal Skull.
I’m glad I’m not the only one, I kinda like crystal skull even though it’s ridiculous
It’s like Scrubs, they did stop after 8 seasons.
Same with Star Wars
Right? Like we never got a transformers movie, altered carbon never had a 2nd season. The fantasy book Eragon never got a movie either.
Real pity honestly. The Indiana Jones movies are great.
I was really hoping for a 5th season of Dexter, too, but I guess they'll never make one. :(
As a 10 year old, I did in fact enjoy 4.
They did stop at 3 for me. Never bothered to watch the new ones. Although I was curious to see the Crystal skulls one as when the movie came out, my local paper did an interview with an owner of one of the Crystal skulls. Too many movies/shows are made for nostalgia sake and then they ruin it.
George doesn't own them.
That’s also what Kyle and the boys realized.
They didn’t. Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis is perfect. They just keep avoiding it for some reason.
Well they did stop at 3. Then some fucker came along and said a 4th would sell
Wait there’s a 4th indy movie that I will never recognize the existence of?!
Yep that’s what i heard from the vines. Just those 3.
And they never made the 2nd completely. Just the few funny parts as individual shorts.
It's weird that they're skipping 4 and going straight to 5. Not going to question it though.
There is no Indiana Jones 4 in Ba Sing Se
There’s no war in Ba Sing Se
TIL there’s more than 3.
4 is a pretty awesome action movie. Much like Godfather 3 and the Star Wars prequels it's a victim on group think imho. The action scenes are pretty incredible, especially the jeep chase, and even the alien bits at the end are pretty on point for tht genre and work when taken on their own level. Plus Cate Blanchett.
I honestly liked 4 better than 2.
I didn't dbt grow up with temple of doom though, so when I saw it, I was already in college and just saw the blatant stereotypes, both racist and sexist.
Man 4 is fine. Sure, it's not great but I'm not sure why everyone acts like it was so awful..
Because people arbitrarily draw the line between the supernatural and aliens.
Although, to be fair, the fridge thing was just plain stupid
Although, to be fair, the fridge thing was just plain stupid
No worse than jumping out of an airplane with an inflatable raft and riding it down a mountain.
It's crazy how people forget how batshit the original movies were, but especially this scene.
Temple of Doom is a fever dream. The chain of events make no sense, it is just some shit happens after another. Also Indy having a cute kid bestfriend sidekick who never gets mentioned again, is weird. It's as if good old Lucas was going for that sweet merchandizing money by adding a child protagonist.
Idk I think it's a good bit more stupid.
I enjoyed it as a kid
They live in a universe where Jewish/Christian God and the Hindu Gods all exist together, and yet somehow people complain about aliens?? That's like the most realistic plot they've had.
It's trying to slam new age BS pseudo-scifi into a fantasy series. It's like saying The Dark is Rising book series could have an ancient aliens final novel without a problem.
It doesn't help that The Crystal Skull made Temple of Doom look like a quality movie.
Idk I feel like the overall plot was the best part. It was the execution and writing of certain details (the fridge the monkeys, etc.) It could have easily been great.
Could we agree on "it was the poor execution of a good idea; it just wasn't an Indiana Jones movie"?
The downvotes are unreal. Purple have no taste anymore
Sorry, but fantasy and scifi aren't arbitrarily divided. They have different assumptions and histories to their worlds. They tend to approach different themes in different ways too.
You can combine scifi and fantasy, but you have to put in the work to build a world where they mesh well together.
I'll add that Indy isn't even just about the supernatural. It's religious artifacts. That the crystal skulls are a new age hokes makes the combination of genres much worse.
Maybe I’m thinking of it like Warehouse 13, which was clearly inspired by the final scene of Raiders and combines both magic and technology. The two can coexist
I said they can coexist in the comment you replied to. (and I adore Warehouse 13 and Eureka, the fantasy and scifi of the Syfy network) I said they don't coexist well in Indiana Jones. Crystal Skull didn't do the work to make scifi work with the history of the rest of the series (and the rest of the series didn't set up aliens).
Complete aside to the Indy discussion, but I hated that Warehouse 13 and Eureka crossed over purely from a lore perspective. They had to include a line that "magic isn't really a thing in Eureka" precisely because of the distinction in genres and world-building I'm talking about. Warehouse 13 is squarely fantasy (they use 'technology', but it's powers and interactions are justified purely by magic) whereas Eureka is squarely scifi (they use 'magic', but it's justified in universe as the application of science). Can we agree that Fargo would definitely not be able to keep the secret that magic exists?
Second complete aside. Warehouse 13 made such great use of music and it's a little saddening every time I rewatch and generic dramatic music plays instead of "White Rabbit", etc.
Yeah, the aliens bit might come from nowhere, but it’s still not out of the realm of possibility in a world where supernatural exists.
Yeah, the crossover was a bit weird (just like crossing over a show about forensic science and a show about zombies and ghosts; I’m talking about Bones and Sleepy Hollow). Plus the fact that they also crossed Warehouse 13 and Alphas. I guess Warehouse 13 had what some might call “magical science”. They had devices that seemed to be magical, but they used and studied them in a way that was almost scientific
It’s not a bad movie, but it’s a bad Indiana Jones movie. The bar was super high after Last Crusade. They literally ride off into the fucking sunset; that’s a tough act to follow.
4 is actually pretty good, it's just weird that they called it "Tintin" and made it all CGI
No it was complete trash. I have never had a single urge to watch that movie again.
Yup. Spielberg in prime vs whatever that schlock was
Man 4 makes the most sense if you've seen Man 2 and 3.
It's a decent comedy.action flick. Making it an Indy movie was kinda pointless though.
I honestly think 4 was better than 2. Indy goes good, bad, good, bad. If the pattern stays, 5 will be good, and we can scrape out the even numbers and get a solid trilogy.
I’d watch Crystal Skull over Temple of Doom 10 times out of 10. Raiders is one of my all time favorite films but way too many people put rose color glasses on looking at the trilogy
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT FILM BEHIND THE CURTAINS!!
2 is awful come on
Crystal Skull is better than Temple.
I too will die on that hill.
Me too, I firmly believe the only people who think otherwise need to rewatch temple and THEN tell me it isn’t the worst.
It’s easy to think it’s alright when you only remember the few good bits.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this
Yeah. The last crusade was a perfect flim to end it.
A trilogy in 5 parts
Worked in books for The Hitchhikers Trilogy?
I just looked up what year raiders released yesterday, only to find out that they have already finished filing the 5th and final movie, set to release next 2023.
How I missed all the directors that changed hands, I do not know; but I’m scared.
Temple of Doom is kind of a rough rewatch
The trilogy stops at 3!
They raped Indy!
“You tried alien skulls and chose poorly”
I feel like they could have had a solid fourth movie if they did one in the 90s with Indy fighting Nazis in World War II.
There’s still another one coming..
I don't hate 4, it just should have been done differently. The refrigerator, Tarzan swinging and the man eating bug infestation really hurt that movie. All of them have some sort of supernatural aspect, but we never needed to venture into that much suspension of disbelief.
They did, and I will fight you on this
They did. They did. They did. Shut up They did.
3 is my favorite. The chemistry between Ford and Connery is beautiful.
TBF, a recent rewatch of ToD made me think it's very nearly as goofy as Crystal Skull.
If only they stopped at 1. I'll die on the hill that it's the only good one.
I stopped at 3.
Or as I call them, the three and a half Indiana Jones movies
and skipped #2
Honestly here's my hot take, didn't like temple of doom. Felt like they took the suave intelligent and badass archeologist from the first one and just tried to turn him into one of the other meat head action stars of the 80s and 90s.
Just felt too far removed from the other 2 for me, especially with a damsel in distress who exists purely to be a damsel in distress and a little Asian sidekick. At least Marion wasn't entirely useless the whole of Raiders and his father was as much a star in last crusade as he was
That is a great point on the lack of archaeology mystery in 2. It's all Indiana saving the day.
It’s not the age, it’s the mileage!
It's not the years, it's the mileage
That’s the one lol, it’s late.
My favorite line when I was young! At 53, I feel those words!
Raiders and Last Crusade are fantastic movies. Temple of Doom is… fine I guess, just not quite as good as the other too
Exactly. It wasn't bad it just isn't as good as the fantastic first and third movies
If 2 and 4 hadn't been so bad it would be worthy of contention.
2 is great. That woman screeching the entire time is not
Shut your whore mouth 2 was greatness
I loved 2 as a kid. But honestly, Indy could have let her drop into the fire pit and I would not have cared less...
I came hear to to say this to anyone who said that
I did not like 2 with the screaming, blonde
Anything Goes bitch!
Why thank. Bitch!
Hold onto your potatoes!
Growing up, 2 and 3 were my favorite. Being older now, I think 3 is my all-time favorite. 2 is definitely much more campy and didn't have the best story but still super enjoyable.
I absolutely agree with this: 3 is a absolutely an all time classic with Connery and all his charm!
2 is the most quotable
Hadn't thought about that.
People like 2?!?!?!?
Just my humble opinion, but it had better action sequences than the first and as a kid, Mola Ram was scarier than any of the Nazis.
I'll be honest. 2 is my favorite Indiana Jones movie.
2 is awesome with earplugs
I have a good friend who’s an insufferable know it all. Used to tell me I was an idiot for liking Crusade better than Temple. Then we go watch the trilogy at this indie theatre doing a special event. He acknowledged he was wrong right after the lights came up. Temple is so, so bad.
Ah, shut your pie hole
Man, as a child of the 80s, and an Indy fanatic, I was so amped when they started filming the 4th in my hometown.
Premier of it comes out and we all go see it.
Fuck, that was painful.
Molaram would like a word with you
Two honestly was a good movie, I think the main thing wrong with it is that it was the most different of the three, being set in a different time period.
Two wasn't SO bad. It was not as nearly good as the other 2, but if it had been the only Indy movie released I still think it would be considered a great movie.
The first three … haha 😂
Nah, as a massive IJ fan since practically birth, it's really hard to justify putting on Temple of Doom anymore.
Weird they are coming out with a 5th but if it's good I won't mind.
I watched Temple of Doom recently with my 8-year-old nephew. It...did not hold up so well.
Raiders is still a cracker though.
Second one is pretty turble.
They had one good movie, one terrible movie, a remake of the good movie with Sean Connery playing the love interest, and a just plain weird movie (which was still better than the second.)
Are you trying to say that Crystal Skull is better than Temple of Doom...?
Crystal Skull is 100% better than Temple of Doom in every area except nostalgia
The woman screaming the entire time... "DoCtAh JoNeZ!!!".... jokes about the savages eating monkey brains in the fictional exotic land of...India
Crystal Skull relied too much on nostalgia to be a good movie on its own, but it fit with the Indiana Jones vibe better than Temple of Doom.
If nothing else it fits the pattern of: good movie, ? movie, good movie, ? movie.
Temple of Doom really wasn't good, it was just sandwiched between two masterpieces so everyone pretends like it was great
Not with temple of doom in the mix
If you skip straight from Raiders to Last Crusade. The second one was iconic, but not actually good.
What if you view them in chronological order?
Lmao I havent gotten the time to rewatch but just the other day that episode from TBBT was on tv and it just happened to be the episode where Amy??? points out that plot hole of how even if Indiana Jones wasnt present in the movie, it still would have ended the same. Is this right, I havent bothered to check.
Kind of.... there is an argument to be made that the Nazis would have eventually found the arc, opened it, and died. That being said, Marion (the love interest) would have probably been killed by the Nazis and she lived thanks to Indiana's help at the bar. Also, the arc might have been recaptured by other bad people or something like that where as in the end it does end up in possession of the US thanks to Indy.
It’s not true at all. Indy figures out the real location of the well of souls because he knows the correct height of the staff of Ra because he and Marion have the original complete headpiece, whereas the Nazis only have one side from the image burned into Toht‘s hand, so “They’re digging in the wrong place.”
It’s a story where good and evil are neck and neck, racing back and forth, and the good guy is so desperate to win that he inadvertently gives the bad guys the advantage, and evil wins the race but discovers the prize is a curse. A symmetry of ironies. Not a plot hole in sight.
I saw that episode of TBBT and it made me mad at the time.
Now, if you were to complain that the third movie is a cheap knockoff of the first, or the second is a big racist cliche with no story, now we’re talking.
Temple of Doom is TERRIBLE. I tried to watch it a couple of years ago and it took several sessions to get through. It’s like it was written by a 6th grader.
No it’s not, because the first one is a fantastic movie and the third one is a fantastic movie, but the middle one is just painful. Starts with a great scene and then it’s a bizarre combination of silliness and grimness. the zero chemistry romance, silly gags like all the stuff with the snakes and the bugs, the ridiculous dinner scene, then suddenly the child torture and ripping a beating heart out of a person, it’s like wtf??
Anytime raiders of the lost Ark or the last crusade is on I will watch them, but I’ll never watch temple of doom again (I’ve seen it a couple times)
Doom was trash
I actually think this is the correct answer. Every trilogy has strays in quality, but Indy 1-3 were all great.
Except Temple of Doom is fucking awful and Last Crusade is cheesy af.
Well 2/3. Temple of Doom sucks
Temple of doom was not well received at the time though
Uhh, have you rewatched temple recently ??
I vote with the pirate ship. Indy 4 ever ❤️
Not a trilogy, a 5th one is about to be released
In Diana Jones ?
I agree, the books they was written really made it interesting as well. I do enjoy reading The Unicorn's Legacy and would reread it again and again. But yes the Indy 3's are great films.
Hahahaha I posted the same before I scolled and saw this comment. I had the VHS box as a kid and nearly ruined them from rewatching. To this day, I also make my girlfriends watch these movies and their reaction can make or break a relationship. One girl actually spoke German, so in Raiders and Last Crusade, she translated for me. It was awesome!
2nd movie is kinda hit or miss for me.
To me the original 3 Indiana Jones films are masterpieces but wouldn't qualify as a great trilogy. Main thing is that they don't follow on from each other, Temple of Doom being a prequel. In fact they're all episodic, more like James Bond series where each story is kind of independent, though first and third Indy movies were at least set in the same WWII time period.
To me an example of the perfect trilogy would be Back to the Future - they all follow on from the previous one and each has its own arc but there's also an overall trilogy arc. The second two movies - particularly the middle movie - aren't masterpieces in themselves but the trilogy as a whole is a truly special one.
That's two dualogies as far as I'm aware. Two excellent odd numbered ones and two mediocre even numbered
Yep definitely those 3 movies, and not a single one more.
So far, the odd numbered films have been excellent while the even ones don't hold up as well. We'll see if this upcoming fifth movie maintains the pattern