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Right? And I thought The Matrix might have been good with a couple sequels, but probably best they didn't make any.
You know I was thinking the exact same thing with Alien and Aliens, they should make a 3rd!
I've always wanted a Highlander sequel, while we're talking about these things.
Highlander 2: There should have been only one.
I literally, and I am literally using the word literally properly here, lol'ed. Thank you.
I’ve literally been saying this joke for at least 30 years. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
On the internet, there's always a fresh audience.
I’m glad I saw that movie hammered and with a bunch of friends. None of us ever thought of that amazing joke :)
Highlander 3: The Apology
Look who's talking three is not getting enough respec on this thread.
And that one should have sean connery
Do I know you? I believe we were starting a website
I don’t believe we do, but tell me more.
🤣🤣🤣 nice one
I was thinking the same thing as Terminator II. I guess James Cameron didn’t want to do a third.
They've been trying to make Terminator 3 like, four or five times, but it's never really worked out
They should use Joseph, Arnold’s son.
Rise of the Machines wasn’t James Cameron but had Arnold and was billed as Terminator 3
But there can only be one Highlander
That was a really weird choice they went straight to 3 after the original.
I think it was ment to be Highlander 3D but the got lost in transit
I’m glad George Miller was open and willing to make Happy Feet 3.
There really should be an ATLA movie.
There was a live action that ppl pretend doesn't exist
My man, you don't get the joke
Have you watched the original lately? I wish I had just kept it an awesome childhood memory.
The Kurgan will never not be freakin' awesome.
There can only be one
Imagine of Connery's character came back after uncomprehensibly sewing his head back on his shoulders.
But there can be only one
Nah, there could be only one.
I'm the Guardian.
But .... there can only be one
You mean, you want a Quickening prequel, right?!
No, you really don't... *shudder*
I know we're being tongue-in-cheek, but you should know Alien 4 (resurrection) has a mind-blowing easter egg that makes it much more interesting.
It was originally written by Joss Whedon and features the first appearance of the characters of Firefly/Serenity. The studio had some issues with the first script, and brought in two other writers that ruined it, but they left in a few scenes with space pirates that are basically the Serenity crew, although not the same actors or anything.
I really liked Alien 3...
Alien 3 is massively underrated. Loved it.
Same. Great score, atmosphere, and directing
Does it? I felt like it was a really poorly written narrative that was just thrown together to grab a quick buck and put the nail in the franchise.
Ripley learns to confront her fears and trust people again in Aliens. She develops a bond with newt that she lost out on with her daughter.
Alien 3 starts out just resetting all the emotional progress she has made, and just wasting a lot of time with side plots that don't really go anywhere. Even the ending of the movie is kind of a weird dead end for Ripley's character development. I am not sure that her character grew or learned anything new. I guess she kind of won?
The style was really interesting, and if it had been another set of characters in a one off story, it might have been really good. It just felt like a really strange left turn for Ripley after the last two movies.
Counterpoint: when you spend an entire excellent movie building a rooting interest in well developed characters and then those characters die OFF SCREEN to start the third movie, it makes you ask yourself if it's worth trying to make that attachment again.
Indeed. Horror would be to continue to build those relationships and use them to destroy Ripley. Imagine the agony Ripley would have to deal with if say Newt had been infected with an alien, and she was forced to kill her before another alien queen hatched.
Shitty / lazy writing is killing them off screen. It was a terrible screenplay.
And did she not care what happened after as little as I did?
The Alien movies aren't about Ripley, they are about the xenomorph. That's why Aliens is the movie that just doesn't really fit into the series - it's a good action movie, but less a good Alien movie.
Alien 3 drives the point home that the Alien will win in the end. The best you can hope for is a stalemate by killing yourself. Even Alien 4 - for the abomination that it is - emphasizes that - give the xenomorph even the smallest space to move, and they'll eat you.
The Alien movies aren't about Ripley
The Alien movies aren't about Ripley
I think that her presence in all three movies pretty much sinks that idea. If she was not the main character, all three movies would have been about totally differing people encountering the Aliens.
Sure xenomorphs are in all three films, but they aren't even really a character. They are more of an environmental hazard than anything. If you think about what is happening in the films, this is really a (wo)man vs nature sort of story. Ripley is faced with a literal death metaphor: A unstoppable, uncaring killing machine that cannot be reasoned with. That's kind of the definition of death itself. She must make a choice to about if she is going to give up and flee or hide, or take a stand against her literal fear and fight back. The aliens are less characters and more obstacles to be overcome.
The films are quite simple about Ripley facing her fears. At least the first few, anyway. After awhile they just became sloppy attempts at world building (does it really matter where they came from?) and Hollywood suits trying to get more money out of a franchise.
You make an excellent point about this film!
I have always liked Alien 3. I love Fincher, so I perhaps I didn't really examine some of the films obvious flaws as a result. I didn't really enjoy the atmosphere and the characters predicament, but yeah, it would have been a much better film if Ripley hadn't been in it at all. Maybe if she had died in the crash along with Newt and only the android made it through.
But... that film never would have been made, so oh well.
Totally agree David Fincher is (normally) a pretty awesome director. The really poor screenplay makes me wonder if he had the Studio dictating things to him, it seems uncharacteristically sloppy. It was his first major film, so he might have had a lot of 'oversight' that was trying to 'help' him make a good movie.
I feel like there was a birth, life, death arc with the three movies.
I even enjoyed the fourth, except for the ending... ah well.
They should set it on a wooden planet inhabited by monks).
Alien 3 assembly cut i hear is pretty good
Alien 3 was great, you should watch it.
There is an (obviously unmade) Alien 3 script by William Gibson that is pretty good. It was made into a graphic novel that is worth checking out. At the time they weren't sure Sigourney Weaver would be back to play Ripley so the story focuses on Hicks.
I didn't mind number 3. It helped me to appreciate each one by thinking of them all as different kinds of movies. First one, a suspense thriller, second one a action horror and third as more of a film noir style horror. The 4th I couldn't stand and I feel like the prometheus series should just have a complete rewrite.
aaaah, the undying hate of random Redditors for Alien 3. Not deserved in that particular case, I think. But true, never heard of an Alien 4.
Riply is cloned as a human xenomorph hybrid, and has to escape a ship full of aliens along with a group of profiteers. Mean while an Alien human Hybrid gives birth to a gooie half alien thing and Riply makes out with it
No, please... I was eating.
Directed by Luc Besson, it was terrific.
And for some reason it can speak and call her mom. Ugh.
My man. I like Alien 3 best, and have had multiple fights about why. Alien 4? Doesn’t exist. I’ll take the worst AvP movie over the supposed 4th movie.
It's silly, but I like Resurrection.
How can anyone not like a movie with Ron Perlman in it?
Alien3 really took a big dump on Aliens.
ninja turtle fan here, the first and second movie were sooo good its a real shame they never made any more after that
And what was Alien 4 supposed to be? An action movie? A horror? A romance, apparently even the director did not know
I thought it was fckn hilarious and even a little zeitgeisty for the hyperrealism/simulakrum stuff Baudrillard talked about in the 80s.
Boondock Saints 3 is supposed to be in production soon
Can't believe Firefly is up to Season 20. Talk about peaking early.
Aliens is close to my favorite movie.
It's what Starship Troopers should have been
I am the one dude that likes all of the pre-prometheus alien movies.
I don't think any of them deserve the hate. The reality is, Alien is such a tiny concept that if they just kept repeating it, it would be stale.
The 3rd was okay, definitely a downgrade but good thing they never made a fourth.
They did! It is just a PC game. Look up Alien Isolation! Honestly, best follow up to the only two Alien movies!
I did a marathon where I watched the movies and played it, and it fits in so perfectly as a third entry.
So, sooo good.
Alien 3 is the best one.
You mean, Alienses?
But... they did.
They did, it's called Prey
? Reloaded and Revolutions?
Re-loaded & Revolutions with a question mark, I thought she was asking about the Matrix
Post mentioned no sequels to the Matrix. There were and it was a great trilogy.
Yes. I saw that. Sorry for trying to help i.will make sure it never happens again
Alien 3 was the best one, for real. Everyone likes to dunk on it but watch it and tell me it's not the best
I have and I will.
All I can say is I’m so glad they made a million Police Academy movies
There was a prequel and it was pretty good.
It should have bern called Aliening
Alien, Aliens, and most alienest?
Alien 3 and Resurrection are not considered canon anymore AFAIK. So yeah, now they could actually make one!
I feel there should be a third Jaws movie, but in 3D.
Alien 3 is actually a great movie (Assembly Cut).
Have you seen prey I thought it was awesome addition to the franchise
Alien was one and done, perfect horror film without any unnecessary action and heroics! Just like The Terminator.
I think Alien 3 is underrated at this point. No, not as good as the first two, but it's not dreadful like so many others. The Terminator franchise, for example, has had almost nothing but outright garbage after T2: Judgement Day.
Yea! Let’s get the guy who made house of cards, panic room, and Mank to direct it!!!
People that think Aliens is better than Alien 3 are simple minded.
Alien, Aliens, and Prometheus
Don't worry, someone made a good Alien 3: https://youtu.be/hoRrZ3WCZD8
Nah they only made 2 and that’s it
Same goes for the Terminator movies.
Uh, they made four. Wait, I see what you did there.
Yeah, they did the big plot reveal in the original, so any sequels would just have been going through the motions and padding it out with special effects and fight scenes.
They'd probably get in over their heads if they tried to match the dope symbology of the original
Prolly end up with just a bunch of clumsy references to prominent philosophy, and getting super hammy with the jesus metaphors
But fuck they would make those special effects awesome and the fight scenes epic.
Yeah, I feel the same way about Terminator. I'm sure a third one of those would have been awesome, but the second one kinda said all that needed to be said.
And how would you make a new terminator after the liquid one without it seeming like a clumsy downgrade?
Definitely wouldn't need to keep making more, especially one where Sarah Conner teams up with a female terminator and they meet up with thr Arnold terminator who has retired to a lakeside cabin by the end.
They did though. It was called Animatrix and it was phenomenal
The Animatrix is criminally unknown and underrated.
Nope, just the matrix, and the anthology series the animatrix
Actually they started making a matrix sequel, but sadly never finished it. You can probably find the leaked footage if you try, it's only about 20 minutes though. If the copy you find is longer than that, don't bother watching the rest, it's usually just old days of our lives episodes tinted green and dubbed in croation.
The Matrix sequels are criminally underrated.
Reloaded was excellent and Revolutions was a good action film to wrap it up. Heck even Resurrections is a fun film with some great moments.
Reloaded was good and Revolutions wasn't bad. I liked the lore that they built about the machines and the matrix, don't @ me.
I've often wondered why the Rocky movies were I II and IV myself.
3 is great. Tf you talking about
But does Rocky end the cold war and communism in the 3rd one? No, no he doesn't.
The matrix has like 4 movies.
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Is this like an avatar situation?
The joke is that the sequels are so bad we pretend they don't exist.
I really give them credit for ending on a high note and note chasing the quick buck.
Is resurrection that bad?
Its fairly bland if you were expecting a dive back into the world
But its a solid mostly-harmless movie, with some fun fan service
It’s a very cynical movie, which I find it worse than bland
It was fairly bad, yes. Everything up to Jada pinkett smith was mildly enjoyable, everything after was painfully boring.
I don't even think the matrix is even in the same category, especially since the third was such a flop
I thought the second one was quite good too, but the third was complete trash.
Yeah the second two blew chunks but at least second had Monica Bellucci.
People try to trash the Matrix, but seeing studios rush creatives into making sequels in a certain time frame really hurts the writers most of all.
Considering what they were up against, I said they did really good.
The sequels were good to me, but I wouldn't say "damn this is the best of all time."
The original was defining, but the later sequels got all hyped up, plus some weird experiemntal shit like having to watch an anime to understand the second one.
Uh SHREK, hellooooo
There are things I like about the sequels. I like some of the action sequences and the concepts are interesting. I feel like they maybe could have communicated them better. What The Architect is and says to Neo is actually a refreshing subversion of the hero's journey, it was just so convoluted the way his dialogue was written I don't think most people understood it.
Reminds of that one movie where thugs break into the house of The Guy Played By Keanu Reaves That Makes Me, A Straight Male, Feel Giddy, kill his dog and boogang his nice car and he goes on a rampage...
Yes, that one movie that I can't remember the name of for some reason.
Terminator 2 was so good, I could see a sequel, but since it tied up the loose ends so well, that was clearly impossible
Same with Highlander
Shame the only theatrical movies we got were the OG movie and Endgame while the rest of the live-action content was the TV Show
I heard they recently didn't make a 4th
Good cuz if they had it would have been some woke garbage
"Woke" opinions safely discarded
They did make sequels. Matrix 2 was terrible and I think they are making #3 right now.
I guess we'll never see Zion.
If you cut the first movie in 3, then 2/3 of that trilogy is pretty good!
I'm scared to ask...which part of the first movie do you consider bad?
It's been a long time, but around when they start making neo jesus by resuscitating Trinity with his hand, I wish they hadn't forked into fantasy land and kept it at hard sci-fi ...
I think that was at the start of the 2nd movie though wasn't it? Or 3rd?
The only resuscitation in the first one is when Trinity tells Neo he can't be dead because of what the Oracle told her.
That keep repeating, but it starts at the end of the first.
But don't get me started on the 2nd, having an infinit budget in a virtual world gave them a chance to try anything, so of course they sunk the budget in a fucking car race...
The Animatrix were so much better!
Yeah but you must admit that the 15 minutes fan made action sequence on a high-way that COULD have been a sequel looked amazing
There was the Matrix and then a concept highway scene for a sequel. Only wish they had turned that highway scene into a full fledged movie
I think they were brilliant leaving it exactly where it is, with just enough to let the audience remain hopeful but unsettled and questioning everything.
It was a brave decision, too, considering they could have just slapped some gibberish together to milk a couple more blockbusters out of things.
Definitely good that they didn't make a fourth one that essentially pissed resentment all over the entire fanbase. That would have been a real crying FUCKING shame.
Too bad they never made any sequels.
When you see the first matrix you've kinda seen them all...
I feel the same with the Indiana Jones trilogy. There must have been so much temptation to make more films (and therefore money), so I am glad that they stopped at Last Crusade. Any more films would have just tainted the franchise
Imagine there's no sequel...
They just did
The Matrix was always written as a trilogy, it’s just too bad the third one sucked so much.
The Matrix might have been good with a couple sequels, but probably best they didn't make any.
The Matrix might have been good with a couple sequels, but probably best they didn't make any.
What about the Animatrix? That was the perfect complement to the movie. Told some backstory and hinted at a future. It was great, nothing more need be said about the universe.
Agreed. Favorite movie of all time. Would suck if they ruined that bad-ass "yeah - he's got it from here" ending.
Yup, that one movie they made is so good....I'm surprised never got a sequel......
The prequel for the matrix was ready player one
I’m confused, you do know the matrix is a trilogy, right?
I don't know what you're talking about. They never made any sequels.
There are 4 matrix movies.
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