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Only the first clip, it then goes on to discuss other scenes.

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Both the US and Russia stand for nothing and are motivated solely by money and the trappings of material wealth. Whether or not Russia has imperialist ambitions is besides the point. The US started this war by orchestrating a coup, flooding the Ukraine with weapons and ignoring their ethnic cleansing. All parties must negotiate for peace, war is evil and should always be avoided.

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Zizek is parroting the US war machine's propaganda on CIA fronted media. He absolutely needs to be called out on this, but Rockhill is not the one to do it. Rockhill is absolutely a clown, not because his associating with the Catholic Church, which has left and right wings and the Latin American Church does quite a lot for the people there. It is not the guilt by association that makes Rockhill ridiculous, but his support of the systems of domination which were and are USSR, China and Cuba. Anyone who claims to be a communist and supports authoritarian state capitalism, knows nothing.

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"Governments make of philosophy a means of serving their State interests, and scholars make of it a trade"
- Schopenhauer

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I'm still hoping this comes back in style

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Engels:

We maintain … that all moral theories have been hitherto the product, in the last analysis, of the economic conditions of society obtaining at the time. And as society has hitherto moved in class antagonisms, morality has always been class morality; it has either justified the domination and the interests of the ruling class, or ever since the oppressed class became powerful enough, it has represented its indignation against this domination and the future interests of the oppressed.

That in this process there has on the whole been progress in morality, as in all other branches of human knowledge, no one will doubt. But we have not yet passed beyond class morality. A really human morality which stands above class antagonisms and above any recollection of them becomes possible only at a stage of society which has not only overcome class antagonisms but has even forgotten them in practical life.

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Marx’s view of morality is a lot closer to the views of the ancient Greeks, particularly Aristotle, than it is to modern philosophers like Kant. Rather than thinking of morality as a set of rules to hold human nature in check, he sees morality as being about how human nature can flourish—how people can fully develop their capacities.

However, there is a twist.

For the past 10,000 years or so, human society has been divided into antagonistic classes, and that has meant that morality has developed not as a general theory of human emancipation, but as a set of rules by which each class attempts to further its own interests.

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the working class is a universal class. In pursuing its own interests, the working class comes to represent the general interests of all humanity. Because it is in its interests to overthrow capitalism by emancipating itself, it will at the same time emancipate the whole of humanity.

In the struggle to end exploitation and oppression, workers will have to challenge the morality of the ruling class. When workers occupy a factory or homeowners refuse to leave a foreclosed property, capitalist morality is challenged. At a higher stage of the struggle it may be necessary to use force against the violence deployed by the state.

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Evidence of this kind supports the view that human beings are not naturally violent, selfish, competitive, greedy, or xenophobic, it is not natural for human societies to be organized hierarchically or for women to have lower social status than men, and capitalism does not exist because it uniquely reflects human nature, as its defenders often claim.

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we are not naturally competitive, rather, we are social creatures who cannot survive without cooperating with each other. Modern science confirms this view. Humans did not evolve as a collection of atomized individuals constantly at war with one another, but in social groups that depended on mutual support.

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Only when workers become conscious of themselves as a class and act on their own behalf will they act to affirmatively end the system. There isn’t really a deep question of morality here; this isn’t about fairness. It is about the struggle between those who control their own destiny and are not alienated from their means of subsistence (capitalists) and those who want this condition for themselves, but are kept from it (the working class).

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"What Marxism teaches us is simply to approach questions of society from a material basis: how does human life persist? Through production of the goods and services needed to live. How are these things produced under capitalist society? Through exploitation of the labor of the working class, that is, by requiring one class of people to sell their labor as a commodity to another class to produce values. What is the result of this system? That workers are “alienated” from their labor, meaning from much of their waking life, constantly required to produce more and more with an ever-precarious access to the means of subsistence."

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Analysis

Good book, but Nagle is way too critical of transgression. All revolutions require transgression, there is no way to change the established order without it. Everything in the dominant culture exists to support class society, so transgression against this culture is necessary and revolutionary. Antisocial transgression is absolutely harmful, but it is the antisocial element that is the problem. The root of antisocial behavior is the focus on aggressive competition, acquisition and consumption in the social character which is a reflection of the mode of production and adopted by individuals. When ethnonationalism is encouraged and all other organization is discouraged, the emerging radical right is the inevitable result. The radlibs appear to have transcended egoism and achieved some sort of solidarity, this is an illusion, but it none the less, seems to be true. Just as the nazis felt pressured by rising slavicnationalism and jewishnationalism, to form their own nationlism, this outcome is entirely predictable.

As far as transgression for transgression's sake, it is helpful in dealing with boredom, ennui and banality maybe even angst, but also requires novelty to be effective. Non-novel transgression can be depressing because it leads one to think there is no escape from the tedium of the world. When even transgression is vapid, what hope is there?

Egoist transgressions, as well as, antisocial transgression will alienate individuals from society but authenticity is dependent on such transgressions. Without the antisocial elements, the dichotomy of transgression vs non-transgression can be seen as the conflict between conformity and authenticity. Individuals need both personal autonomy and social freedom, both the freedom to grow and flourish and connection to a community of free peers.

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Chapter 2

The cult of the moral transgressor as a heroic individual is rooted in Romanticism.....it was revived in twentiethcentury countercultures. Norman Mailer posited the psychopath as a noble and transgressive figure in fiction. He saw the hipster....as borrowing from the tradition of the noble psychopath of fiction in his disregard for social conventions and the mainstream, and perceived the fictional psychopath as a symbol of being freed from sexual, social and moral inhibitions. The psychopath, like the artist, privileges id over superego and desire over moral constraints. .... Maurice Blanchot’s dictum that ‘the greatest suffering of others always counts for less than my pleasure’.

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insanity was considered a creative source, a rejection of mainstream norms and a political act of rebellion. The surreal became a pre-rational creative expression.

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Nietzsche, one of the main thinkers being channeled by rightist chan culture knowingly or otherwise, argued for transgression of the pacifying moral order and instead for a celebration of life as the will to power.

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Today, the appeal of his antimoralism is strong on the alt-right because their goals necessitate the repudiation of Christian codes that Nietzsche characterized as slave morality. Freud, on the other hand, characterized transgression as an anti-civilizational impulse, as part of the antagonism between the freedom of instinctual will and the necessary repressions of civilization.

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Bataille revered transgression in and of itself, and like de Sade viewed non-procreative sex as an expression of the sovereign against instrumentalism, what he called ‘expenditure without reserve’. For him excessive behavior without purpose, which also characterizes the sensibility of contemporary meme culture in which enormous human effort is exerted with no obvious personal benefit, was paradigmatically transgressive in an age of Protestant instrumental rationality.
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The Situationists’ critique of ‘the poverty of every day life’, like Baudelaire’s An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom, articulated a common sentiment found from the Romantics through to contemporary online cultures of transgression, that ennui, boredom and inertia requires a counterforce of extreme transgression.

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‘The grotesque tends to operate as a critique of a dominant ideology which has already set the terms designating what is high and what is low.’ This is very much how 4chan has long self-described and how it was described by its early ‘progressive’ boosters, except that the dominant ideology in the time of 4chan has been cultural liberalism, and the ‘low’ therefore meant un-PC poor taste, rudeness, shock, offence and trolling.

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As Lasch understood, for progressive politics anti-moral transgression has always been a bargain with the devil, because the case for equality is essentially a moral one

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dominance as sexual ‘sovereignty’ and the freeing of the id from the constraints of the conscience have all descended from this transgressive tradition

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The Sadean transgressive element of the 60s, condemned by conservatives for decades as the very heart of the destruction of civilization, the degenerate and the nihilistic, is not being challenged by the emergence of this new online right. Instead, the emergence of this new online right is the full coming to fruition of the transgressive anti-moral style, its final detachment from any egalitarian philosophy of the left or Christian morality of the right

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Chapter 7

Philips described 4chan/b/’s trolls as ‘reveling in counter-hegemony’ and ‘undermining established media narratives’ and the ‘mindless histrionics of the modern 24-hour news cycle’. She characterized Fox News’ unflattering description of 4chan trolls as an attempt to ‘maximize audience antipathy’ toward them and said ‘mainstream media outlets aim to neutralize a particularly counterhegemonic cultural space.’

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It was the utterly empty and fraudulent ideas of countercultural transgression that created the void into which anything can now flow as long as it is contemptuous of mainstream values and tastes. This is what allowed a culture that has now been exposed in all its horror to be romanticized by progressives as a counter-hegemonic force. The truth I think it reveals is that both rightist chan culture and ultra-PC academic culture understood the countercultural dog whistle of disdain for anything mainstream.

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The entire discourse around ‘normies’ and ‘basic bitches’ who ‘don’t get’ the countercultural styles of the amoral subculture takes me back to my adolescent days of rival music subcultures, but now it’s with grown men and some more serious political stuff at stake. Richard Spencer regularly accuses those who fail to find the return of race separatism edgy and cool, of being normies and basic bitches. Mike Cernovich was interviewed by the New York Times and said Hillary Clinton’s speech ‘was the stupidest thing she could have done’, adding, ‘Her socialmedia advisers are twenty-four-year-old basic bitches who feel triggered by us…’ When we’ve reached a point where the idea of being edgy/countercultural/transgressive can place fascists in a position of moral superiority to regular people, we may seriously want to rethink the value of these stale and outworn countercultural ideals

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‘The rebel discourse of the 50s is haunted by the figure of the matriarch as the chief organiser of conformism.’ ... Conformity in this imaginary is feminine and rebellion is masculine. ... in the rebel imagination, women figure as both victims and agents of ‘castrating conformity’. ... the trap of marriage and domesticity was posited as the enemy in 50s and 60s male rebel culture, and women regularly played the roles of the counterrevolutionary enforcers of suburban mediocrity.

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the idea of the inherent value of aesthetic qualities that have dominated in Western pop culture since the 60s, like transgression, subversion and counterculture, have turned out to be the defining features of an online far right that finds itself full of old bigotries of the far right but liberated from any Christian moral constraints by its Nietzschean anti-moralism.

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Half a century after the Rolling Stones, after Siouxsie Sioux and Joy Division flirted with fascist aesthetics, after Piss Christ, after Fight Club, when everyone from the President’s fanboys to McDonalds are ɻogging the dead horse of ‘edginess’, it may be time to lay the very recent and very modern aesthetic values of counterculture and the entire paradigm to rest and create something new.

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